Negligent discharges ...

@D @ds-j 2 years ago

Neglident discharges - how often do they occur?

Not the "I played around and oops ..." type, but truly accidents which occurred due to an honest mistake, or something similar?

I know that the basics are very simple: keep the booger hook off the bang switch, yet accidents occur.

Hence the question: how, and how often?

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@O @oafpatroll

Are you saying you think the gun can fire itself without the trigger being manipulated?

'Uncommanded discharges' sounds like classic weasel wordery to me. Along the lines of just transition, social justice or inclusive development.

MIM is used by just about everyone. You'll struggle to find a volume manufacturer that doesn't include it.

The fact that something is theoretically possible doesn't equate to it being likely or probable and until someone proves this 'phenomenon' empirically I'll stick to calling it most likely driver error chasing huge payouts in the land of loony civil litigation.

@N @nosteponsnek88

Are you saying you think the gun can fire itself without the trigger being manipulated?

'Uncommanded discharges' sounds like classic weasel wordery to me. Along the lines of just transition, social justice or inclusive development.

MIM is used by just about everyone. You'll struggle to find a volume manufacturer that doesn't include it.

The fact that something is theoretically possible doesn't equate to it being likely or probable and until someone proves this 'phenomenon' empirically I'll stick to calling it most likely driver error chasing huge payouts in the land of loony civil litigation.

Yes that's what I'm saying, whatever the correct terminology is called, whether it be uncommanded discharges or something else, the definition remains the same, the firearm fired a round without the trigger being depressed.

You can go die on that hill, I refuse to believe that 100% of all these reported incidents are for payouts, user error, bad holster design etc.

@O @oafpatroll

You can go die on that hill, I refuse to believe that 100% of all these reported incidents are for payouts, user error, bad holster design etc.

Nothing's impossible and as I've said before I'm not 100% sure of anything wrt this story, except perhaps that very large sums of money influence behaviour. It's not about belief one way or another but rather likelihood and a pistol is not a device complicated enough to hide magic so sooner or later it will be proven or not. If you 'believe' something then no amount of evidence or the lack thereof is convincing which is why I prefer to avoid it and keep an open mind. I look forward to seeing something empirical coming out of the investigations that must be happening in the background given the scale of the awards, the potential losses to SIG and potential knock-on effects to the US military and dozens of police forces.