https://allgunstuff.co.za/community/elr AllGunStuff Discussion Board en-US Fri, 07 Aug 2026 23:08:22 +0000 wpForo 60 https://allgunstuff.co.za/community/elr/king-of-1-and-2-mile-video Mon, 29 Sep 2025 07:33:34 +0000 ELR Tripodmvr https://allgunstuff.co.za/community/elr/king-of-1-and-2-mile-video https://allgunstuff.co.za/community/elr/labradar-for-sale Sat, 26 Apr 2025 03:46:31 +0000 Post on Jaracal


Labradar (Bluetooth) – Like New
Unread post by Headshot25 » 26 April 2025, 12:18:32

Labradar (Bluetooth) – Like New
Barely used and in excellent condition.

Includes:
Labradar Padded Carry Bag
Tripod
RAT
Aim Sight

All items are in mint condition. PM me for more photos.

R7500 (Negotiable)
Pretoria
073 399 3068]]> ELR Tripodmvr https://allgunstuff.co.za/community/elr/labradar-for-sale https://allgunstuff.co.za/community/elr/a-spotter-error-i-noticed Mon, 30 Dec 2024 23:46:39 +0000
The target is off the ground. From the shooting position, the ground behind the target is visible under the target.

In the diagram, the curve is the bullet path, the doted line is line of sight, and the red is the target.

The bullet impact appears on the ground close behind the target, between the target legs.

If the bullet was a laser, then yes, it can be said that it passed under the target.

The bullet is on an arc, the highest point of which is tens of meters above the ground,

It drops behind the target, appearing to impact just below.

If it's called below the target, the shooter will increase elevation, the result of which will raise the trajectory, and if there is grass just a few meters further out, no impact will be visible.

The correct call is to decrease elevation, as the bullet passed just over the top.

This can be illustrated by calculating the change in drop every two meters from 2 miles for the cartridge.

]]> ELR 414gates https://allgunstuff.co.za/community/elr/a-spotter-error-i-noticed https://allgunstuff.co.za/community/elr/ko1m-by-team-pittstop Thu, 24 Oct 2024 22:49:28 +0000
If you interested in this kind of shooting, it's a good opportunity to see what equipment people are using. Picture of 1130m gong.

]]> ELR 414gates https://allgunstuff.co.za/community/elr/ko1m-by-team-pittstop https://allgunstuff.co.za/community/elr/lessons-learned-rifle-support-for-elr Mon, 12 Aug 2024 09:35:43 +0000
1. the front is elevation adjustable
2. the rear is elevation adjustable.
3. front and rear are adjustable.
4. neither is adjustable, and the rear bag is moved forwards or backwards against the angle of the stock to add or remove elevation.

I did start out using method 4. My scores improved dramatically when I went with a rear squeeze bag. I find it very easy to control, and extremely consistent. Not a good option for anyone with arthritis in fingers or hand.

I prefer a fixed front. My bipods are the foldable, lockable leg variety. None of my bipods have rubber feet, all are flat and hard. I find that rifle stability is more in the length of the fore-end than in the bipod type, and rubber feet tend to result in a bit of muzzle movement under the recoil impulse.

My favourite rear bag is a squeeze bag. This works well for me when the rifle is not heavy.

I found the rear squeeze bag impossible to use on a heavy rifle simply because most of that weight is on the rear bag, and I don't have enough strength in my fingers to squeeze the bag enough to move the rifle. I tried that once, each stage ended up a wrestling match for me on the firing line.

So for that rifle, an adjustable rear is the ticket.

Universal Adjustable Bar Rider.

Every person is different, and what works for me won't work for you, to it's important to try different things till you get your best result.


]]> ELR 414gates https://allgunstuff.co.za/community/elr/lessons-learned-rifle-support-for-elr https://allgunstuff.co.za/community/elr/prequel-to-elr-with-a-50bmg Mon, 20 May 2024 07:53:29 +0000
While I was waiting for the license, I tried to find information on 50 bmg reloads, and there is nothing useful to me outside of the official manuals.
 
There is a dedicated 50 caliber shooters forum, but it's a paid subscription, and I refuse to pay money to eventually contribute my intellectual property obtained at my cost.
 
The reason for that is the load data specifies a 45 inch barrel. GRT seems to think that powder burn is not complete with the normal powders in my barrel length, such as 869, the two VV BMG powders, and H50BMG.

I particularly wanted data for a shorter barrel, because I know that when powder doesn't manage to burn in the barrel, it just produces muzzle flash and a concussive blast when the bullet exits.  That's a lot of excess powder to experience the effects of in this rifle.
 
I know from experience with my other target rifles, that best accuracy and consistency follows complete powder burn in the barrel.
 
I found data for N570 and the AMAX 750, and I had some N570 left over.
 
I had used N570 in my 375 RUM, and it gave great velocity, but powder burn was too slow for my 30 inch barrel, which showed in the lack of consistency. There was half a container left,  and GRT showed it would give 100% burn in the BMG barrel length, so I decided I would try it first.
 
Co-incidentally, the day I was prepping the brass, I found that Vihtavuori had updated their load data with Cutting Edge 720 grainers and N570. This was closer to what I was trying, so I used that data as a start. There are faster powders listed, but this gives the highest velocity for that bullet, even more than the actual BMG powder, 24N41. That data is also for a 45 inch barrel, but GRT is confident that the burn of N570 in my barrel is 100%.
 
I started at 5% below the minimum, 206 grains, and went to 228 grains, two grains over maximum.
 
The 206 grain charge gave 2588 fps, and the 228 grain 2930 fps. I moly coat my bullets. Over time, as the barrel gets coated, I expect velocity to drop off slightly.
 
To compare pressures of the reloads, I used a 1/10,000 micrometer, measuring the base of the case just above the extractor groove, before and after firing at the range. I measured the initial size on the range on the day, in case the temperature difference between the reloading room and the range had effect.
 
I did not use virgin brass, which makes the measurements slightly less indicative. I assumed that whatever the previous firing had expanded the brass to, it would ether not expand or expand a bit more if the pressure was higher. I was more interested in the final size, which I compared to the size of the virgin brass I have. In fact, the initial lower charges produced no additional expansion on the brass.
 
The max load tested of 228 grains produced acceptable to me relative expansion, and should give good case life.
 
First shot was the sighter, scope adjustment of 2 mils if I remember correctly, then second shot was top right, scope adjusted 2 tenths of a mil down, then the rest.

This is at 148 meters, and shows some promise as far as accuracy potential is concerned.

My biggest concern was the recoil, which is why I opted for the bench first. It's easier to manage the recoil at the bench than prone. It proved not as much as a 500 Jeffery or 450 Watts in a hunting rifle, neither of which I can safely shoot from the bench. Seems more than my braked 375 RUM, but not as vicious. My RUM cheek-piece used to slap the side of my face blue,    I have to shoot it with a padded foam cover on the cheek-piece. It does move me back a bit further than the RUM shooting from the bench. No bruising the next day, but I expect with a higher round count, it will leave a mark.

I will repeat this test, increasing the AOL by 0.1 inches and 2 grains charge at the same time, per increment. GRT seems to think that the max pressure remains the same as my 228 grain load up to 232 grains and 0.2 inch greater AOL.
 
And shoot it prone.

]]> ELR 414gates https://allgunstuff.co.za/community/elr/prequel-to-elr-with-a-50bmg https://allgunstuff.co.za/community/elr/they-say-the-50-bmg-is-not-a-good-elr-gun Thu, 01 Feb 2024 03:07:00 +0000
1000 yard BMG record

So. Does that mean the right combination of components is not general knowledge yet ?

That was a heavy gun record, meaning the gun was 50 lb max weight.

The weight of the rifle is not the major factor in the accuracy, so it's not inconceivable that a 40 lb gun , such as limited to in Ko2m, can be as accurate as any Barret or Cheytac.

]]> ELR 414gates https://allgunstuff.co.za/community/elr/they-say-the-50-bmg-is-not-a-good-elr-gun https://allgunstuff.co.za/community/elr/king-of-one-and-two-miles-south-africa Sun, 28 Jan 2024 10:42:50 +0000
King of Miles HANOVER

Karoo - MY World

Anyone going this year ?]]> ELR Newton https://allgunstuff.co.za/community/elr/king-of-one-and-two-miles-south-africa