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The olden ways.

Treeman — Mon, 22 Jun 2026 19:30:14 +0000

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.270 130 gr bullet penetration.

Treeman — Tue, 16 Jun 2026 18:40:37 +0000

This last w/end I ended up as last person to shoot due to guests needing their chances. Last hunt, last hour of hunt a Impala ram presented itself at 247 m. I shot it with a far behind shoulder intention as the Impala are producing a terrible amount of meat damage if shot even near shoulder.
The hit sounded and the bush was a turmoil of ewes jumping and bolting every which way before joining up and running off, I could not find my ram in the mix. I counted rams I could see and confirmed that there were two ?

I thought there was only two before shot ? This was worrying ! - Very.

As they got far I thought one animal less passed out from behind a large bush cluster and hoped it was because of expiry date being reached.

We walked back to bakkie and drove to animal nearest reach point, which was about 120 m from standing point. You have to drive about 3 km to get to this point from a 247 m shot because of ravines etc
We searched area and found nothing at POI not even blood, so we searched in route to where I thought it may have fallen. At some point I forgot to keep a verbal leash on the puppy and he took it as his chance to bolt. I was furious that he did it again. A moment later I heard his puppy bark and he was onto the animal. He chased the Impala until it went down and I was so proud of him, second time this w/end he did same thing ( earlier we found an impala with a broken front leg and I let him chase it, he did so till it fell and then he bayed till I got there)

Now to the question, the bullet hit about where intended, but did NOT exit, 130 gr bonded at 3000 fps. The bullet hit no bone and no gut, bit of lung, destroyed liver.
I expected a through shot and a 30 -50 m run, but it ran 400-500 m.

Why did this bullet no exit ?
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/55339388328_d3a7791949_b.jpg2ee78f3c-7e3e-4c5b-a9dd-71dfdc2743cb by frank allen, on Flickr

Jagkoeëls vir 357 Mag / Hunting bullets: 357 Mag ?

Ds J — Tue, 16 Jun 2026 11:17:01 +0000

Goeiedag, kan enigeen raad gee met jagkoeëls vir n 357 Mag rewolwer?

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Can anyone give advice on hunting bullets for a 357 Mag revolver?

The Judas Pig

Treeman — Tue, 09 Jun 2026 16:01:22 +0000

Fit a tracker to one pig and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Wildlife managers across the American South are using a technique called the Judas pig. They capture a feral hog, fit it with a GPS collar, and release it. The hog walks back into the landscape and does what feral hogs always do. It finds other hogs. The GPS transmits the location. Trappers or aerial gunners arrive and kill every hog in the group except the one wearing the collar. The Judas pig survives, finds itself alone, and goes looking for another group. When it finds one, the coordinates update. The guns come back. The group dies. The collared pig lives. The cycle repeats until there are no more groups to find.

The technique is named after the apostle who led the authorities to someone who trusted him. The pig does not know what it is doing. It is a social animal following the only drive it has after its family is gone, which is to find another family. Every family it finds is destroyed because it found them.

Feral hogs are the most destructive invasive mammal in the United States. The population exceeds six million animals across at least thirty-five states. They cause an estimated $1.5 billion in damage annually to crops, livestock forage, native habitat, wetlands, and water quality. They root up agricultural fields, destroy ground-nesting bird habitat, eat the eggs of sea turtles and ground-nesting songbirds, compete with native wildlife for mast crops, and carry diseases transmissible to domestic livestock and humans. They reproduce faster than any other large mammal in North America.

A sow can breed at six months old and produce two litters per year with four to twelve piglets per litter. Researchers have estimated that a feral hog population can recover from having seventy percent of its numbers removed within two and a half years.

That reproductive math is why conventional removal does not work at scale. Hunting, trapping, and aerial gunning kill hundreds of thousands of hogs per year. Louisiana alone reported 161,000 killed in a single hunting season. The population kept growing. Removing individual animals from a population that breeds this fast is like bailing water with a coffee cup. The only method that produces lasting suppression is whole-sounder removal, eliminating every animal in a family group at once so that no breeding female survives to replace the losses. If you leave one pregnant sow, the sounder rebuilds within a year.

The Judas pig technique exists because whole-sounder removal requires finding the sounder first. Feral hogs are intelligent, nocturnal, and extremely wary of human activity. A sounder that has been hunted or trapped will shift its range, change its activity patterns, and go deeper into cover. Locating a sounder in thousands of acres of southern bottomland timber or Gulf Coast marsh without a signal to follow can take weeks. A Judas pig finds them in days.

In Louisiana, USGS researchers at the National Wetlands Research Center collared feral hogs and tracked them through the bayou country of the Atchafalaya Basin. One collared pig led a field crew to twenty-four other hogs on a single day. The researchers followed the GPS signal to a location in dense swamp timber where the sounder was bedded, and the entire group was removed. The Judas pig was left alive, released, and within days its GPS signal showed it moving toward a new cluster of hog activity three miles away.

In Saskatchewan, where feral hogs escaped from domestic operations and are now breeding across the prairies, provincial wildlife crews use helicopters to net-gun hogs on open ground, collar them on site, and release them. When the Judas pig locates a new sounder, aerial hunters return in the helicopter and shoot every hog in the group except the collared animal. The collared pig bolts, runs until it is alone, and eventually finds another group of hogs because a feral pig alone on the Canadian prairie in winter will die without the warmth, protection, and cooperative foraging that a sounder provides. The pig's survival instinct is what makes the technique work. It has to find other hogs or it will freeze. Every time it succeeds, every hog it finds dies.

At the University of Georgia, graduate researcher Faith Kruis began the first systematic study of the Judas pig technique in 2021 on farmland in southwest Georgia where feral hog damage had become severe. Her team collared seventeen hogs and released them at their capture sites or relocated them within the same property. She tracked each collared pig by GPS and deployed trail cameras at locations where the Judas pig appeared to be socializing with uncollared hogs. When the cameras confirmed a sounder had formed around the Judas pig, USDA Wildlife Services trappers moved in and removed the group. The collared pig was spared, released, and monitored until it joined another sounder.

Kruis found no significant difference between male and female Judas pigs in how quickly they located new groups, how many hogs they associated with, or how frequently they were observed with other pigs. The technique worked regardless of which animal carried the collar. The only variable that mattered was social drive, and every feral hog has it because feral hogs do not survive alone.

The Judas pig is not a tool the way a trap is a tool or a helicopter is a tool. It is a living animal performing a function it does not understand against a species it belongs to. It eats, sleeps, roots, and travels the same landscape as every other feral hog. The only difference between the Judas pig and the hogs that die around it is a three-pound GPS collar and a decision made by a biologist who looked at a trapped pig and thought: this one goes back.

The technique works in Louisiana swamps, Georgia farmland, Saskatchewan prairies, Tennessee mountains, and Texas brush country. It works because feral hogs are social and the Judas pig cannot stop being social. It works because the pig does not learn. The sounder it joined last week was killed and the pig that led the killers to them is already walking toward the next group, driven by the same need for company that made the last introduction lethal. The collar does not change the pig's behavior. It only changes what the pig's behavior produces.

Six million feral hogs in the United States. $1.5 billion in annual damage. A population that recovers from seventy percent removal in thirty months. The most effective tool wildlife managers have found to suppress them is not a bigger trap, a faster helicopter, or a better poison. It is one pig, collared and released, walking alone through the woods, looking for a family to join, carrying a signal that will bring the same ending to every group that accepts it.

Source: USGS National Wetlands Research Center / University of Georgia, Warnell School of Forestry / Maclean's / Georgia Feral Swine / USDA APHIS.

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Woodleigh bullets

Treeman — Mon, 01 Jun 2026 20:26:56 +0000

Anybody here using Woodleigh bullets for hunting - .308 - 7 mm and .277 cal

Frontier Bullets

Treeman — Mon, 01 Jun 2026 20:25:31 +0000

anybody here using Frontier bullets for hunting ?

Meat damage - AGAIN

Treeman — Mon, 01 Jun 2026 20:06:26 +0000

Cody is shooting Hornady 154 gr Interlocks from his 7mm 08 at 2600 fps. The meat damage is just crazy, my .270 generally has far less meat damage. I do not understand this low velocity meat damage.
I have gone off mono bullets because they just kill slower with same shot placement, no doubts about it, mono shots need to be more precise.
I am wondering if a bonded bullet is not the answer ?

Dads Note book.

Treeman — Sun, 12 Apr 2026 09:04:49 +0000

Found the old note book I started for Cody when he was six.
cody book 1 by David Frank Allen, on Flickr

I still remember the Dassie shot so clearly.
cody book 2 by David Frank Allen, on Flickr

Bullets for hunting - 300 Win Mag

Newton — Sat, 07 Mar 2026 10:04:46 +0000

I am open to all and any suggestions
Cup and core / bonded / mono-metal / hybrid
Plains game from Springbuck /Impala / Blesbuck to Eland
One bullet for all ?
Please voice your suggestions and opinions
What would you suggest as the most suitable for this round for hunting - in various scenarios
I however think that we can discount short range bush-veld ?

Acceptable SD for a hunting bullet

Treeman — Sun, 01 Mar 2026 22:26:46 +0000

I have always aimed for a SD of above 260 when considering a hunting bullet, any thing below 250 was just not a consideration. When hunting we need a bullet that can travel long distances against resistance offered by intended animal to reach the vitals.

I was rather taken back when I looked up the .308 155 gr bullet s loved by so many hunters - a measly SD of 233. like really !
yet it works.

This got me wondering AGAIN, velocity, SD and just how much of each we need.
To me, the following is a basic understanding.

Velocity is for getting there without too much drop. Velocity is also required to make the bullet mass have some value.

Bullet mass is what does the work in regard to penetration, and mass behind frontal area is what decides how well it will do that job.

So I was wondering, what is the required SD of a bullet to effectively travel through meat and bone?
At what point in SD numbers does a bullet just like get there at 3000 fps and just stop its forward motion 15 cm later because it just has no momentum.