So here I go again. I managed to get a box of .270 Nosler Partitions in 160 gr, a bit pointless because there are only 50 in the box. The good news however is that a local bullet maker is interested in making the bullet for me cup and core style.
I honestly believe this 160 gr in .277 will have penetration of note and that a cup and core bullet will be usable to better wound channel results than any 150 gr mono or premium bullet.
Has anyone on site ever used a 160 gr bullet in their .270 Win ?
In a 1 in 10 twist rifle Gyro Stability calculates at 1,67 at your altitudes. Should stabilise well and give hunting accuracy.
Quote from: Tripodmvr on Apr 03, 2024, 09:36 PMIn a 1 in 10 twist rifle Gyro Stability calculates at 1,67 at your altitudes. Should stabilise well and give hunting accuracy.
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Yes I have not read a post world wide of stability issues.
Can you give comparable weight for another similar calibre?
It sounds like 200gr in a 30-06?
What speed would you achieve with it?
Using S365 with the 160Partition a speed of 2800fps is safely possible.
Quote from: Tripodmvr on Apr 07, 2024, 07:55 PMUsing S365 with the 160Partition a speed of 2800fps is safely possible.
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The yanks are quoting 29++ Fps
Quote from: Treeman on Apr 07, 2024, 08:18 PMQuote from: Tripodmvr on Apr 07, 2024, 07:55 PMUsing S365 with the 160Partition a speed of 2800fps is safely possible.
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The yanks are quoting 29++ Fps
Max speed is not a safe accurate load. Depends on barrel length as well. I have used a 24 inch.
100fps might relate to 1 inch at 300m.
Quote from: Tripodmvr on Apr 07, 2024, 10:08 PMQuote from: Treeman on Apr 07, 2024, 08:18 PMQuote from: Tripodmvr on Apr 07, 2024, 07:55 PMUsing S365 with the 160Partition a speed of 2800fps is safely possible.
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The yanks are quoting 29++ Fps
Max speed is not a safe accurate load. Depends on barrel length as well. I have used a 24 inch.
100fps might relate to 1 inch at 300m.
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I must really get down to reloading these 160 gr I have, was hoping to get some more to have a useable amount.
My quick Load seems to have died, must find out whats wrong with it other than being about 12 years old.
I've shot 160gr Speer Cup n Core in 7x64. 0.2mm wider in diameter than a 270. They penetrated Ok, and did a lot of internal damage as I had a lot of cup core separation with these.
Quote from: Againstthegrains on Apr 23, 2024, 08:15 PMI've shot 160gr Speer Cup n Core in 7x64. 0.2mm wider in diameter than a 270. They penetrated Ok, and did a lot of internal damage as I had a lot of cup core separation with these.
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Do not think the separation was due to it being 160 Gr ??
Velocity ?
Speer 160 BTSP. 2850fps would be the speed for a 24 inch barrel.
They were going at 2700ft/sec. They broke up because they are not well constructed bullets. No bonding between the cup and core. But they were pretty lethal with all the bits of lead and core going off in different directions.
I still need to get to this load development, bullets have been lying on shelf for 2-3 years now.
What do you need - inspiration from us or a swift kick?
oom Drie, I have just lost enthusiasm in the reloading, almost like common sense kicked in. I have hundreds of reloads for every caliber I own and will likely not hunt through my stock. I also have for instance, about 300 .270 bullets that still need loading before i will "NEED" new ammo, so why reload more ?
I know this is a "kak" attitude to have, but has kinda just slipped in.
That said, I ask again for the members to ask around, can anyone find some nosler 160 gr bullets for me. I do not wish to do the whole job to find no stock available.
Treeman, not wanting to go on with a hobby is fairly normal. You gave up biking some time ago. With hunting, one seems to go through phases. Your playing phase seems to have taken a setback, and your teaching phase seems to have taken over. Don't worry about that, embrace it and move on.
Which Nosler bullets are you looking for?
Partition, only one they make in 160 gr.
So to repeat what I said earlier.
A local manufacturer has agreed to make me 160 gr bullets. The company APM bullets will provide a thick jacketed cup and core bullet - just what I want.
Lower velocity, and a easily deformed bullet that holds together - I hope.
When i got Cody the 7mm-08, I was really taken by the weapons + + + in every field, low recoil, no barrel lift, seriously less vicious report when suppressed, just calmer in every way. I am guessing that case life will prove to be very good as well.
When use on game it killed like any other bullet does, but as above, with much less fireworks. The penetration was god to better and even "wow!" on occasion, and that is with plain cup and core bullets. I found premium bullets just a waste of premium, they were 100 % more than needed on penetration, even on smaller non trophy kudu.
This whole 7mm-08 thing got me going in regard to 7x57 fame and the whole slow and heavy bullet thing. I liked the idea of slower and heavier, but not to the point of slow and heavy, just slower.
I started to find fault in the .270 Win that I use, meat damage and even more meat damage, always a lot of meat explosion damage, even with good bullets. I got to wondering if the .270 could be made to shoot more 7mm-08 154 gr like.
Turns out that the .277 bullet in 160 gr form has the same SD as a 7x57 shooting a 168 gr bullet. Walter Bell used 173 gr bullets and a 7x57 to kill elephants. Both bullets 160 and 168 have SD of 298 with the 173 bullet being 310 Sd.
I believe this 160 gr will change the whole .270 Win concept - just a pity the 270 is a 1 in 10 twist.
Quote from: Treeman on May 05, 2024, 09:29 PMI have hundreds of reloads for every caliber I own and will likely not hunt through my stock.
I know this is a "kak" attitude to have, but has kinda just slipped in.
I will help you get over your "kak" attitude - by taking your "excess" off your hands .. :)
Do you have .30 cal bullets ?
Specifically those extra long heavy slim ones - bonded core / mono-metal
Needed for - "experiments"
Quote from: Treeman on Apr 08, 2024, 03:57 AMMy quick Load seems to have died, must find out whats wrong with it other than being about 12 years old.
I gather you are hinting ?
One could at one stage find a "demo" copy which was actually quite useful
I had to use the "Wayback" machine to find it again - seems it was sent to Folder 13 - where Internet stuff that people no longer want you to have .. fades away
Although of course GRT is FREE