some fake meat facts

Started by Treeman, Oct 10, 2022, 05:35 PM

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Treeman

Real meat requires one ingredient: meat. The same cannot be said for synthetic meat.

Many of the fake meat alternatives on the market today are new concoctions filled with artificial ingredients. They lack the nutrients of real meat while offering no health benefits.

Fake meat fits into three categories. Here is what you need to know about them.

 

"Plant-Based" Meat

When people hear the term "plant-based," they think it means the product is filled with nutritious veggies. That is a meal called a salad. But that is not the case with fake meat.

Products like the Impossible Burger have deceptively used the term "plant-based" to impart a health halo on something that is ultra-processed–a category of food linked to health problems including obesity.

The Impossible Burger has more than 20 ingredients including methylcellulose, yeast extract, cultured dextrose, soy leghemoglobin, and salt. The main ingredient in this burger and many competitors is processed soy protein.

Soy protein is formed when soybean flakes are bathed in a solvent called hexane to separate the protein from the fat. Hexane, a human neurotoxin, has been suspected of harming reproductive health and fetal health. The European Union prohibits foods that contain more than 10 parts per million of hexane residues. An independent study found hexane levels at 50 parts per million in some food products using hexane.

Beyond the risks of soy protein, "plant-based" meats leave little reward for health-conscious consumers. Beyond Meat's fake burger has more calories and significantly more sodium than real meat. According to a study from Duke University, it lacks the essential nutrients found in real meat,

 

Fungus Mold / Mycoprotein

Fungus mold. You read that correctly. That is the foundational ingredient for fake meat made of "mycoprotein." The most prominent mycoprotein brands include Quorn, which was sued in 2002 and cornered into removing the term "mushroom-derived protein" from its packaging because, again, it's fungus mold, not mushrooms.

To make the mycoprotein, the fungus mold is fermented in vats of glucose, ammonia, vitamin additives, and other substances to form a "fibrous dough" that is used in vegan cheese and meat alternatives. Because the product is made from a mold, it is believed to have caused allergic reactions in some consumers, allegedly including one fatal incident. Quorn admits that its products have "the potential to cause allergic reaction."

Unfortunately  that mold concoction does not yield a healthier product. Mycoprotein has half the essential amino acid density of real meat and only scant calorie savings. Any consumer hoping to maintain the same amount of nutrition from meat would need to eat twice as much mycoprotein, eliminating the minimal calorie difference.

 

Cell-Cultured / Lab-Grown Meat

This meat alternative isn't considered to be vegan by many animal lovers. Instead, it's more of a Frankenstein experiment that yields meat grown in a vat rather than on a farm.

Cell-cultured meat is produced in a machine known as a "meat fermenter." The process starts with cells harvested from young animals including bovine serum, calf serum, horse serum, and chick embryos. Those cells are then soaked in something called a "nutritious feed" which is basically a stew of preservatives, hormones, and various "growth factors." While not every company discloses what is in that stew, organ-growth research from the University of Missouri found that the following additives were effective for growing tissue:

Calcium propionate, a preservative that can cause migraines and headaches;
Sodium nitrate, a preservative known to cause high blood pressure;
EDTA, a chemical compound used to bind ions. EDTA has been used to purge toxic heavy metals from the bloodstream, but it has been known to cause kidney damage;
BHA and BHT, two preservatives that are believed to be carcinogenic;
G-CSF, a chemical used to treat leukemia while causing side effects of nausea and chest pain;
EGF, IGF, and NGF, growth factors that can cause dry skin, retina swelling, and osteoarthritis, respectively;
GM-CSF, a drug used in cancer treatment that carries side effects of bone pain, nausea, rash, headache, and fatigue;
Interleukin 6, a chemical that can cause cancer.
Currently, lab-grown meat is getting a lot of attention, but it's not yet available for sale in the US. The product has only been approved in a few countries and the sticker price is enough to turn away most consumers. Advocates are hoping to get it approved for sale in the US in late 2021 or 2022.
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oafpatroll

BS for people with too much time and money on their hands IMO. Cosplay meat for cosplay people.

Treeman

Quote from: oafpatroll on Oct 10, 2022, 06:15 PMBS for people with too much time and money on their hands IMO. Cosplay meat for cosplay people.
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Wonder if you "offending" anyone?
I am who I am - I am not who you want me to be.
Therefore I am me.

oafpatroll

Quote from: Treeman on Oct 10, 2022, 07:11 PM
Quote from: oafpatroll on Oct 10, 2022, 06:15 PMBS for people with too much time and money on their hands IMO. Cosplay meat for cosplay people.
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Wonder if you "offending" anyone?

In my culture we believe that a day without offending a muppet is a wasted day.

Ds J

My mom was vegan for 20+ years due to her health.

It is possible to live without meat, and without having to concoct something which represents meat.


oafpatroll

Quote from: Ds J on Oct 11, 2022, 11:57 AMMy mom was vegan for 20+ years due to her health.

It is possible to live without meat, and without having to concoct something which represents meat.

Hear hear. I have a friend who for religious reasons eats no meat and never has, knowingly at least. He's not vegan in that he eats dairy products though. Nothing that I have ever eaten at his home resembles meat in any way and it's all been absolutely bloody delicious.

Treeman

Quote from: oafpatroll on Oct 11, 2022, 07:02 AM
Quote from: Treeman on Oct 10, 2022, 07:11 PM
Quote from: oafpatroll on Oct 10, 2022, 06:15 PMBS for people with too much time and money on their hands IMO. Cosplay meat for cosplay people.
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Wonder if you "offending" anyone?

In my culture we believe that a day without offending a muppet is a wasted day.

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 You lead a life well lived  ;D
I am who I am - I am not who you want me to be.
Therefore I am me.

Treeman

Quote from: Ds J on Oct 11, 2022, 11:57 AMMy mom was vegan for 20+ years due to her health.

It is possible to live without meat, and without having to concoct something which represents meat.


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I think this is the vegetarians weakest point, the need to try simulate meat. I understand and respect making vegetable hamburger patties or sausage, but please f'off with your vegetable beef or chicken.
My Mother and a man that was my fathers best friend have been vegies for like 30 years now (they eat fish for some reason), but I have never seen make believe beef or such in there diet. The soya is soya and the burger pattie is just that a veggie burger pattie - pumpkin pattie,  sweet potato pattie. 
I am who I am - I am not who you want me to be.
Therefore I am me.

Ds J

Has anyone ever seen cauliflower made from fat or tallow, or a carrot made from mince, or a radish made from chicken?

I rest my case, your Honour!

Treeman

Hoe se" hulle ?
-fokkof policieman?
 ;D
I am who I am - I am not who you want me to be.
Therefore I am me.