I'd like to know who / where the SA Bisley clubs are, and what shooting ranges they use.
In Cape Town we use the military range at Atlantis.
In Bloem they use De Brug military range.
I do not think there is one in PE, Kudu's Kloof out Uitenhage way is still in use - SA Jagters range ?
Old Jan Haasbroek shooting range Vereeniging., now CMH Sport Shooters Retreat
Quote from: Tripodmvr on Mar 28, 2023, 09:29 PMOld Jan Haasbroek shooting range Vereeniging., now CMH Sport Shooters Retreat
That's relatively close for me, thanks.
Talking about Bisley SABU
The F-Class World Championships were held in SA recently at De Brug in Bloemfontein
Eric Cortina did a whole YouTube series on the event
Sadly not much public information has been provided by the SA team ?
Does anyone have any insight there ?
What rifles they use ?
Using what components
Built by which South African gunsmith / s ?
So on and so forth ...so many questions
I went to the website and filled in the online form - but - never got any reply ?
With the world championships over there is no longer any urgency. I'd be surprised to see any if them on the range for the next month or two.
With the inclusion of F-sporting now, why not join a club with your hunting rifle. Then you can see first hand what it is all about. You will learn a lot about reading conditions.
There have been a number of international comps in SA recently. Great to see. Compak World Championship was at Valley Gun last Aug and 14th ICTSF World DTL Championship was held there at the end of March this year. Mate of mine who shot for SA in the 90's in the US a couple of times said it was quite literally world class.
Is there not some ELR world shoot in SA for 2024?
The Target Rifle World Championships and Palma competition is next year in Bloemfontein.
Fantastic to see that we still feature in the world of shooting in some way.
I contacted Johan Wille, and he added me to the CMH-SSR group, which uses the CMH range, about 45 minutes south of JHB. They announce their range days there.
You don't need to be a member to shoot with them on the day, just pay the range fee. For informal shoots they will permit a suppressor, but no brake.
He is on whatsapp. zero 8 two 8 zero 8 double three 63.
"There are two Gauteng based clubs, viz, Witwatersrand and Rand Rifles.
Rand Rifles is primarily a TR club but has of this year established an FTR team.
Witwatersrand (Wits) is primarily F-Class.
There are very few F-Sporting members and it is seen as a stepping stone to FTR or F-Open.
I am presently the chairman of Gauteng and Wits and a member of Rand. Province and clubs use the CMH range as our home range.
I shoot FTR.
Some shooters are shooting at the CMH range this Saturday, distances 300, 700, 800 an 900m.
A lot of shooters, myself included, are taking a break following the World Championships which ended two weeks ago.
I will send you an invite to join the CMH WhatsApp group. By being part of this group you will be informed when shoots are being held.
Should you wish to participate in an "official" competition held under the auspices of the South African Bisley Union, you will be required to officially join a SABU club and SABU itself.
Casual shooting as arranged from time to time at the CMH range does not require membership fees but you are required to pay the range fee.
Regards
Johan"
There is also a Natshoot ELR initiative
Natshoot ELR (https://natshoot.co.za/elrsa-natshoot-series)
I'm still trying to figure out how that works.
Quote from: janfred on Apr 22, 2023, 05:33 AMWith the world championships over there is no longer any urgency. I'd be surprised to see any if them on the range for the next month or two.
With the inclusion of F-sporting now, why not join a club with your hunting rifle. Then you can see first hand what it is all about. You will learn a lot about reading conditions.
Thanks for reply
Yes I understand I could do that
However I am interested in the South African National team that competed in the recent World Championships
As far as the non-members ( the public ) are concerned they are a faceless unknown quantity
I refer again to the Eric Cortina US YouTube channel where all the members are shown - what rifles they use and a whole lot more information
As far as Eric Cortina is concerned ( World Champion ) he has a whole section on the rifle he used , what caliber , what ammunition , how he reloads and much more - publicly available.
Please can you show ANYTHING similar for the SA team - or - any member of that team ?
https://youtu.be/Z4vmwD4_kcI
Quote from: Tripodmvr on Apr 23, 2023, 04:38 PMhttps://youtu.be/Z4vmwD4_kcI
Thanks
Does not really tell me much
I do however know something of the range officer Brig General McGill Alexander
THIS is the kind of information I am looking for ...
Quote from: Tripodmvr on Apr 22, 2023, 04:38 PMIs there not some ELR world shoot in SA for 2024?
Not sure about the
ELR, but the International Practical Shooting Confederation (
IPSC) handgun world championship will be held at the Frontier Shooting range outside Stilfontein North West province in
2025, it has been confirmed a while ago already.
Lyk vir my die Namibianers is meer geselig ?
Namibian Bisley World Championship 2023 (https://www.facebook.com/NamibiaBisley/)
Where are the South Africans ?
Quote from: Newton on May 08, 2023, 08:12 AMLyk vir my die Namibianers is meer geselig ?
Namibian Bisley World Championship 2023 (https://www.facebook.com/NamibiaBisley/)
Where are the South Africans ?
You are aware that the F-Class World Championship was held in Bloemfontein this year? And that the world champion is South African?
You seem to be very anti-south african shooting for some reason. This is starting to become really irksome.
Quote from: janfred on May 08, 2023, 03:37 PMYou are aware that the F-Class World Championship was held in Bloemfontein this year? And that the world champion is South African?
I am afraid that as far as I understand the US are the World Champions in F-Class OPEN as well as the individual World champion = Eric Cortina
The Individual champion in F-Class TR is South African
As to being "anti-South African shooting"
NOPE - All I am asking is .. why the South African team and the individual South African shooters are so quiet - so unknown - have so little Social media exposure ?
Are THEY not proud to be South African ?
https://icfra.com/summary-report-of-2023-f-class-world-championships-fcwc/
https://bulletin.accurateshooter.com/2023/03/erik-cortina-wins-south-african-f-open-title-in-prelude-to-f-class-world-championships/
https://bulletin.accurateshooter.com/2023/04/team-usa-wins-f-open-world-championship-takes-2nd-in-f-tr/
Erik won the SA Open. He only achieved 14th place in the world championship. The actual winner was BJ Engelbrecht. Herman won the F-tr quite handily.
SA came second in F-open by 5 points and scored more that previous records. SA also won F-tr by a "close" 53 points and new record.
Quote from: janfred on May 12, 2023, 11:46 AMhttps://icfra.com/summary-report-of-2023-f-class-world-championships-fcwc/
https://bulletin.accurateshooter.com/2023/03/erik-cortina-wins-south-african-f-open-title-in-prelude-to-f-class-world-championships/
https://bulletin.accurateshooter.com/2023/04/team-usa-wins-f-open-world-championship-takes-2nd-in-f-tr/
Erik won the SA Open. He only achieved 14th place in the world championship. The actual winner was BJ Engelbrecht. Herman won the F-tr quite handily.
SA came second in F-open by 5 points and scored more that previous records. SA also won F-tr by a "close" 53 points and new record.
All the more reason for them to celebrate and - make known their achievements
I am sorry if this annoys you
but
I am still looking for information about the team / who they are / what rifles they used / what gunsmiths they used and so on and so forth
It would appear that the IPFR is better promoted ?
SAPRF (https://www.precisionrifle.co.za/)
SA participated in the 2022 World Championships in France
FRPRA (https://www.recoilweb.com/team-usa-wins-precision-rifle-world-championships-176311.html)
QuoteTeam USA crushed the competition taking first place in the Open, Limited, and Ladies divisions.
Great Britain & Northern Ireland took first place in the Factory division, South Africa was first place in the Senior division, and Norway scored first place in the Military & Law Enforcement division.
The next World Championship will be held in South Africa next year ( 2024 )
A huge congratulations to team USA! The next world championship will be held in South Africa in 2024, and we look forward to seeing Buchman defend his title.
Or ....
Perhaps NOT
Weapons to Russia (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aafRcM1EHrA)
For what it's worth
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