I just received my induction annealer, and its Friday - the first should assure that not much else gets done with the other.
Gonna anneal everything I guess       

Anybody else use one ?

yea, that does cause a bad taste.

I'm quite sure the discounts don't apply to us. Even if they did I wouldn't be clapping my hands like a seal. It's not more than a few years back that they were selling the old pro1000 an saying that it would last a life time if you oiled it. I now have two pro1000s with a fair bit of spares on hand. I'm a second hand first kinda girl but if I was to want a new press for some reason I doubt it would be a Lee given how they dropped support for both the pro 100 and load master so soon after releasing updates.

Quote from: oafpatroll on Oct 04, 2024, 06:25 PMLee's new business model of discontinuing support for their products, some not long after they have released updates as in the case of the Loadmaster, is pissing me off. I'm a 35+ year supporter of the brand which was built on old man Lee providing outstanding value and long term support. His kids appear to have taken a very different approach on the latter at least. 

The Lee webpage says it will give you a 50% discount on a new press if you send them your Loadmaster or a picture with your ID, not sure if that applys to SA?

Lee's new business model of discontinuing support for their products, some not long after they have released updates as in the case of the Loadmaster, is pissing me off. I'm a 35+ year supporter of the brand which was built on old man Lee providing outstanding value and long term support. His kids appear to have taken a very different approach on the latter at least. 

Quote from: oafpatroll on Oct 04, 2024, 03:38 PMGlad you came right. Duane at 480 BC is worth keeping on speed dial for future Lee requirements too.

Lee has discontinued the load master and don't even have stock, so I was lucky to get one

Glad you came right. Duane at 480 BC is worth keeping on speed dial for future Lee requirements too.

Camdix sourced one for me...Great people to deal with

Afternoon All
There was a second urgent application launched by the PFTC to interdict various state role players such as the QCTO and SASSETA from developing a skills program to replace the current firearm training qualification.
In simple terms the current training takes 2 to 3 days in order to be trained to apply for a competency certificate. A skills programme must , by law , be a minimum of two weeks long.
Many problems become immediately apparent. Very few people can afford to take two weeks off work to qualify to obtain a competency certificate and the cost would increase proportionately to the amount of time required. Trainers have also indicated that there is not enough training material or training required to fill two weeks.
The PFTC raised concerns that the state role players do not have a legal mandate to quality assure firearm training which vests in the PFTC by virtue of the 11 July court order and that policy and consultative requirements had been circumvented by the QCTO and SASSETA.
The judge ruled the application was not urgent and struck the matter from the roll and gave what we perceive to be a mild cost order. He excluded the cost of a second advocate and gave costs on a lower than normal scale. He did so because he indicated in argument that although the matter was not urgent, there may be contempt of the 11 July court order and that he had serious concerns with both the rationale for the skills program and the manner in which the state roll players had gone about trying to development the skills program when there was no apparent need for it and in the absence of a satisfactory explanation why it was needed.
We will be back again in court shortly.

Latest update from Martin Hood.

Quote from: Treeman on Oct 04, 2024, 09:31 AMI can not see why a non violent and also a purely paperwork crime should classify you as a non firearm owner - we have all done some crime in some degree or someone else's interpretation of the law.

It doesn't but I think it should disqualify you from being a firearms dealer just as it does, in most cases, from being a company director. By being convicted of fraud you have defined yourself as being up to dishonesty and being incompetent at it. Not sure which is the worse of those two.