Quote from: oafpatroll on Jun 04, 2025, 10:39 AMI don't think that home DIY swaging would work on copper monos. Almost certain that would require multi-ton presses. SBC bullets are swaged (as far as I know) and they work well out to much further than 50m

SBC are CNC manufactured base with bonded lead front. Got that from the owner himself.

I don't think that home DIY swaging would work on copper monos. Almost certain that would require multi-ton presses. SBC bullets are swaged (as far as I know) and they work well out to much further than 50m

Got a hand full of cards yesterday   
   one rifle already scrapped, one resold and one in use for 3 months already.
WT genuine F ?

This was some time ago so I expect there are a lot more updates and upgrades
Core bonded as well as ballistic tips
There are a lot of options and variations ( as explained )
There could be a monetary recovery aspect as well
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These processes allow you to make a object shaped like a bullet, that can actually look like a pretty bullet, but there is so much more to it, so much.
I have looked intothis a few times and even gotten involved with guys that went down the rabbit hole.
Yes you can make out to 50 m accurate bullets, if you proper good, you may even get a 3 inch group at 100 m. These bullets and the process are only fit for survivor, end of times kinda applications.
Been there - tried it.

Geeeesssss !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!    - imagine the pressures and forces involved in swaging a "not" lead bullet.

I have shot quite a few WW11 era 303 Mk7 rounds. On warm days they shot well, but in cold weather they had a few hang-fires.  I guess the Cordite was getting old after 75+ years.

Also shot some PMP headstamped 303 and 7,62 Magnus ammo from 1966 to 1979.  No issues at all.

Quote from: Ds J on Jun 02, 2025, 11:03 AMI had one of these Rugers in the hand some time ago. The grip looked very small, yet was comfortable. Are magazines and other spares available?   

Indeed, it

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Quote from: Ds J on Jun 01, 2025, 09:16 PMA new gun is always fun - congratulations!

How does it compare to the new single stack Glocks? Close to a G43?

More like a Glock 42, I'd say.

I shot one a while ago.  Being used to shooting DA revolvers, I had high hopes for the trigger.  Was not impressed.  The example I tried had a heavy and gritty trigger, making shot placement challenging.  Perceived recoil with the locked breech, short recoil system was quite pleasant, compared to the typical snappy recoil of blow-back pistols in the same caliber.

The thing to really compare it to would likely be a 5-shot 38 Spl snubby.  It is smaller, lighter, holds more ammo, has less recoil and is easier to shoot. So that's a thumbs-up.

This one's trigger is heavy but smooth and progressive so it is quite a bit like shooting a rollie DA. I shot around 50 rounds of my 1200+fps SD ammo mimicking training load through it when I bought it and was pleasantly surprised at how controllable it was. With the 9 round mags it will offer much better firepower, handling and concealabilty than a +P capable snubby. With a bit of training I expect to feel adequately armed wit it and three 9 round mags on hand.

This is an LC9 which is in 9mmP. I think you may have shot the LCP which is very similar but chambered in 380.

Indeed, it was a LCP that I shot. Sorry, looked at the pictures and missed the LC9 bit.
Yes, the LC9 in 9x19 is indeed much more effective than the LCP in 380/9k.
I think Ruger worked on their triggers after the first batch of LCP's got out.  A smooth trigger would make this a very effective carry piece.

So the other day I was chatting to friend who says the Barnes bullets are different because they swage the tip rather than turn them on a CNC lathe, so I asked Chat GPT if they knew more about the process:

Yes, Barnes TTSX (Tipped Triple-Shock X) bullets are swaged during the manufacturing process.

Here's a breakdown:
Swaging is a process that shapes a bullet by applying high pressure to form it precisely without cutting away material (as in machining).

Barnes uses swaging to form the bullet's shape (ogive, boat tail, etc.) and to ensure consistency and accuracy in dimensions.

After swaging, the bullets are often polished and grooved (as seen in the TTSX), and a polymer tip is inserted to improve ballistic coefficient and initiate expansion.

So, while the TTSX is a solid copper bullet, which might suggest machining, the key shaping is done through precision swaging — not CNC machining.

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Quote from: Ds J on Jun 02, 2025, 11:03 AMI had one of these Rugers in the hand some time ago. The grip looked very small, yet was comfortable. Are magazines and other spares available?   

They are oddly comfortable and its a natural pointer in my hand. I got a couple of takedown pin covers from Guns & Bows while I was waiting for the license and have two extended Ruger 9 round mags on order at the moment.

I had a similar experience with one of the small S&Ws; unfortunately I cannot remember whether it was the Shield or the Bodyguard. Tiny, yet very comfortable.