OK so long story short, when I said I was sorted I didn't know at the time I was dealing with a scumbag who scammed me, as a warning to anyone who uses the Safari Outdoor app or any other groups, or classifieds, beware of a person named SHAUN SWART / JASON BROWN with cellphone number +27 64 834 7254, apparently residing in the Nkomazi region close to the Swazi border.
He scammed me out of R89-00 PUDO to PUDO locker money, at the time I didn't know you cannot add insurance on your parcel, so he wanted to scam me out of R146-00, but I already EFT the R89-00 before he mentioned the insurance fees.
The name Jason Brown pops up regarding a advert on gunafrica.co.za regarding CCI large rifle primers.
https://www.gunafrica.co.za/classifi...nt-129550.html

If you want to double check banking details etc, you can WhatsApp me, I'll make contact with his bank once I have some free time etc..

So back to my original post, no I'm not sorted, I'm still and only looking for a used / 2nd hand HOLOSUN 507COMP with a red reticle.

Morning All

Happy New year . My first post for the year is not a happy one.

Two important issues need to be discussed and I will start with the first, firearm training.

Many of you are aware , and I summarise , of the function of the PFTC is quality assuring firearm training.

If you have a competency certificate, you would have been trained by an accredited training institution who , upon successful completion , would submit your results to the PFTC who verify and quality assure the training and issue a statement of results.

A comparison is Umalusi who do exactly the same for matric exams.

This system has been in place since 2013 and is self funding and because it is not government run, has much less fraud and corruption.

The firearm training qualification 50480 expired in June last year , like many thousands of others and was not extended. The PFTC had submitted a new qualification but , typically of organs of state , SASSETA and the QCTO were too busy at the feeding trough to approve it.

We obtained a court order extending the qualification pending the finalisation and registration of a new qualification , and the litigation is pending, again with government and organs of state doing everything possible to delay getting into court , aided and abetted by highly paid [ by you] private lawyers.

The proposed solution , from SASSETA and the QCTO , which involves taking away the quality assurance function from the PFTC and putting it , presumably back inhouse to SASSETA , is a skills development program to replace the qualification.

You might think " OK, so what? "

Here's the issue. It is proclaimed educational policy that a skills development program must be a minimum of two weeks long .

Before any of you say "no way , it won't happen" , it is .

I have draft documents from SASSETA, on a QCTO letterhead for the proposed " Handgun handler for private use" skills program which is set at NQF level three and requires 10 credits. The equivalent program for business use of a handgun is 11 credits. A credit is equal to 10 hours of notional learning.

If this proposed program becomes the legal requirement for training for firearm possession [ and saps have bought into the process, because I have Legal Services comments on the program that make it clear that they want it to be ] it means as follows.

A new applicant for a competency certificate [ ie who has never previously had one] to possess one type of firearm, for example a handgun , must do two weeks training because a credit is 10 hours of notional learning and 10 credits equals 100 hours of learning which equals 10 days. For one category of firearm .

If you want to obtain business use training for all four categories of firearm possession , ie handgun rifle, shotgun, semiauto rifle /PCC my calculation adds up to 800 hours of training or 16 weeks of training.


Think about who can afford to and has the time do this and what the consequences will be for firearm ownership.

From Martin Hood's WhatsApp group.

Make your own custom bullets, cheap and easy.

Cast .308 paper patched goes to .314 very nicely.

220 grain Lee mould is cheap.

With 0.314" diameter,  the bore is very loose indeed. Have you considered custom turned bullets?

A very experienced gun smith once told me that undersized bullets increase barrel wear.

At least you know the source of the trouble!

I have heard that Kriek bullets has done custom work.

The rifle was rebarrelled by Truvelo and Bloemfontein Rifles did the reaming of 303EPPS.  I have not kept shot count but will safely say it's under 1000 rounds.  When I collected the rifle from Truvelo, I specifically asked the bore diameter and the gunsmith said it was "X" mm (don't remember the figure) according to SAAMI standards, which converted to 0,314.  I've never had a gunsmith confirm.

Quote from: big5ifty on Jan 10, 2025, 09:54 AMThe new Lee Perfect Powder measure can give better consistency with extruded powders than the Harrel, by design. But the Lee is plastic and the Harrel is expensive, and so the comparison usually ends there.

I tested my well worn lee perfects consistency as a side distraction while developing an accurate 12G slug load. My observations mirrored yours exactly. The measure is superbly consistent. With S121 it dropped charges all day that were well inside of 10th of a grain, i.e. variation within the thickness on the zero line of my RCBS scale. It was less consistent with MP and MS but was still slightly better than my very much more expensive Lyman measure.   

That variation agrees with my observations for volumetric dispensing of extruded powder, the percentage variation increases with the size of the extruded powder grains.

The new Lee Perfect Powder measure can give better consistency with extruded powders than the Harrel, by design. But the Lee is plastic and the Harrel is expensive, and so the comparison usually ends there.

The bore is loose, oversize and therefore bonded bullets being harder bed worse than softer cup and core bullets.

Quote from: big5ifty on Jan 07, 2025, 03:04 PM

Quote from: janfred on Jan 07, 2025, 01:47 PMIf you have ever pulled a few rounds of factory ammo and weighed the charges,  ...

Out of interest, what was the average charge weight, and the variances.

Was it ball or extruded.

It'll help me understand how the powder measures work on the commercial machines.

I did not take note of the charge weight as such as no one exactly knows what powder they used, but I did not see any ball powder. I was only interested in the variation.

Average charge weights were all around 42.5gr to 43.5gr if I remember correctly. The Berger ammo were the best at +or- 0.2gr. ADI and GGG were all around +or- 0.3gr. Basically what you would get if using a good Harrels powder measure. Velocity wise we were looking at SD between 10 and 15 over 10 shots for the Berger and ADI. Apparently this is excellent.

The Sako hunting ammunition had a charge weight variation of almost a grain! To say that I was disappointed after paying R1100 for 20, is an understatement. Grouping was around 1 MOA, but the 3 round ES was 65 fps! I pulled all those, averaged the load and reduced it by 0.3gr. That reduced the 3 shot ES to 12 fps.

What the exercise above made clear is that most of us reload much better that we can shoot. The precision in reloading that we pride ourselves in rarely translates to real world performance. And the variation that most see on paper are overwhelmingly shooter or rifle induced.

If it does not even group with FMJ, the fault is probably something else. I don't understand how/why regular cup and core bullets work, but bonded bullets dont. Maybe it has to do with the balance of the bullets? Very unusual indeed.

Is it original, with just the chamber reamed, or with a new barrel? 

In many cases, grouping troubles has to do with a shot out barrel, or certain bullet weights, or certain bullet designs.