Baboons not afraid of man

Started by Tripodmvr, Apr 30, 2025, 09:36 PM

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big5ifty

It's all fun and games until a baboon runs off with someone's baby and eats it.

Ds J

It simply needs to bite the first one who doesn't hand over his bag. Folks don't realise that wild animals are wild anjmals.

oafpatroll

Too much Disney screen time over the last 40 years.

Treeman

I see the heading of this post, a thought came to mind, why are we so used too, expectant, almost feel its normal that things should be afraid of us?
I am who I am - I am not who you want me to be.
Therefore I am me.

oafpatroll

Quote from: Treeman on May 02, 2025, 07:33 AMI see the heading of this post, a thought came to mind, why are we so used too, expectant, almost feel its normal that things should be afraid of us?

i think its because as a species we've been able to kill pretty much everything on the planet at will for hundreds of years.

Tripodmvr

Half tame animals are extremely dangerous. These baboons are monitored as can be seen by the one with the neck belt. They have lost all fear of man during their escapades in the suburbs.

oafpatroll

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Quote from: Tripodmvr on May 02, 2025, 08:35 AMHalf tame animals are extremely dangerous. These baboons are monitored as can be seen by the one with the neck belt. They have lost all fear of man during their escapades in the suburbs.

Hear hear. Baboons that have been acclimated to humans, especially those brought up by the Disney channel, are properly scary. Kilo for kilo they are way stronger than humans, much faster and as cuddly as tikkoppe in an armed robbery.

Ds J

Quote from: Treeman on May 02, 2025, 07:33 AMI see the heading of this post, a thought came to mind, why are we so used too, expectant, almost feel its normal that things should be afraid of us?

Because that is what is natural to us - animals see us and usually flee. My guess is that it is partially conditioned, and partially natural. Animals in nature reserves are mostly quite docile, yet there has been enough cases of humans getting hurt. On hunting farms, hunted animals are wary and non-hunted animals remain fairly docile.

In this video,  I assume that the baboons are supposed to be wild. They have most probably learned that humans are not to be feared, but rather see humans as a source of food.

Could one consider that these baboons  view humans as beneath themselves in the pecking order?

223

Quote from: Ds J on May 02, 2025, 11:00 AM
Quote from: Treeman on May 02, 2025, 07:33 AMI see the heading of this post, a thought came to mind, why are we so used too, expectant, almost feel its normal that things should be afraid of us?

Because that is what is natural to us - animals see us and usually flee. My guess is that it is partially conditioned, and partially natural. Animals in nature reserves are mostly quite docile, yet there has been enough cases of humans getting hurt. On hunting farms, hunted animals are wary and non-hunted animals remain fairly docile.

In this video,  I assume that the baboons are supposed to be wild. They have most probably learned that humans are not to be feared, but rather see humans as a source of food.

Could one consider that these baboons  view humans as beneath themselves in the pecking order?

The humans have a choice as to where they want to be in the pecking order, or is that the food chain.
These individuals have made their choice of position pretty clear.

223

Quote from: 223 on May 02, 2025, 01:38 PM
Quote from: Ds J on May 02, 2025, 11:00 AM
Quote from: Treeman on May 02, 2025, 07:33 AMI see the heading of this post, a thought came to mind, why are we so used too, expectant, almost feel its normal that things should be afraid of us?

Because that is what is natural to us - animals see us and usually flee. My guess is that it is partially conditioned, and partially natural. Animals in nature reserves are mostly quite docile, yet there has been enough cases of humans getting hurt. On hunting farms, hunted animals are wary and non-hunted animals remain fairly docile.

In this video,  I assume that the baboons are supposed to be wild. They have most probably learned that humans are not to be feared, but rather see humans as a source of food.

Could one consider that these baboons  view humans as beneath themselves in the pecking order?

The humans have a choice as to where they want to be in the pecking order, or is that the food chain?
These individuals have made their choice of position pretty clear.



Tripodmvr

The City of Cape Town has proposed extending the current urban baboon management programme by 18 months, at a cost of R20 million. The City's suggestion comes despite previously claiming it had "no mandate" to manage chacma baboons on the Cape Peninsula.

big5ifty

Quote from: Tripodmvr on May 02, 2025, 08:38 PMhttps://maroelamedia.co.za/nuus/sa-nuus/polisie-doen-ondersoek-na-bobbejaan-by-pringlebaai-doodgeskiet-word/

The problem will remain as long as people consider baboons around their home to be part of nature, like birds and butterflies.

If they have adult male baboons roaming the suburbs in Pringle Bay, I wonder if anyone noticed a trend of small pets gone missing.

oafpatroll

My uncle had a private reserve in the Magaliesberg. When there were small stadsjapie kids about in the 70's he had marked a perimeter around the houses on tree trunks that was about 150m out. When baboons began encroaching into that area he'd set up a hide on the flat roof of the main house which was surrounded by parapet walls and shoot one that came past the perimeter. He told me that it was rarely necessary to shoot more than 4 or 5 a year to keep them polite