Quick-ish change press setup

[janfred]

You can attach photos on this forum by selecting "Preview" at the bottom of the text box. Then "Click or drag files here" appears below the text entry box. Provided it is less than 2MB you can then insert it inline by selecting the blue arrow.


Apologies if you already know this.

[oafpatroll]

You can attach photos on this forum by selecting "Preview" at the bottom of the text box. Then "Click or drag files here" appears below the text entry box. Provided it is less than 2MB you can then insert it inline by selecting the blue arrow.


Apologies if you already know this.

Thanks. I didn't know the forum supported image hosting as many don't due to cost. Will do that from now on. Kinda pisses off that OneDrive of all things has made it into the ban lists.

[big5ifty]

Most phone cameras take higher res pictures that are larger than 2MB, you will need to either

- resize the image down on your PC [ or your phone if you know how to ] then upload.
- reduce the default picture size on your phone camera

For example, a 1600x1200 image in webp format is under 500k.

[oafpatroll]

Few more pics in case any one else wants to use any of the ideas.

Plates from left to right: APP, Pro 1000 & Breechlock Challenger single stage. The generous cutout on the APP plate is to allow it to support all the way to the rim of the bottom breech lock fitting. No idea whether that's a real weak spot but it did look a little flimsy.



As yet incomplete wall brackets. They have sections of the plate stock acting as height and width spacers for the plates. There's a mm of clearance side to side and about 0.25mm top to bottom. The clearance for the height/thickness of the plates was achieved by adding one layer of some plastic sheet from a blister pack so the plates are a nice sliding fit. The brackets will be mounted to the wall with 4 screws on a pair of tapered wooden spacers with the fat ends at the bottom to give the give the slot an approx 5 degree tilt upwards so that a little gravity will be added to the securing mix. It's looking like the securing pins I thought I'd need will be unnecessary.

[Treeman]

an engineers son ?

[oafpatroll]

an engineers son ?

He's not an engineer but rather an incurable tinkerer. Turns his hand to pretty much anything.

[big5ifty]

If you slide the mounting plate into the wall bracket, the mounting plate is then a cantilever.

How much flex are you expecting ?

[oafpatroll]

If you slide the mounting plate into the wall bracket, the mounting plate is then a cantilever.

How much flex are you expecting ?

Indeed it will be and hence the slight upward angle to benefit from that. I expect near zero measurable flex. The plates are 5mm thick and the brackets 6.

[big5ifty]

A 5mm cantilevered plate will flex when you size brass.

Less from the action of sizing, more from the force of your hand at the end of the stroke.

[oafpatroll]

A 5mm cantilevered plate will flex when you size brass.

Less from the action of sizing, more from the force of your hand at the end of the stroke.

Ok, I understand your question now. The brackets are for wall storage of unused and fully assembled presses not for using them. The strap and tab clamp arrangement on the bench is for the use of the press so there'll always be four 'red presses hanging on the wall' and that wont be able to introduce enough flex for one one to accidentally fall which is what the fitting and angling of the brackets was all about.

[big5ifty]

I assumed due to the heavy gauge steel involved that it was meant to be load bearing.

Overkill for storage, but a very slick solution. Nicely done..

I would suggest a drop pin in the center of the support  through the plate. Murphy will find a dozen ways to dislodge it by accident.

[oafpatroll]

I assumed due to the heavy gauge steel involved that it was meant to be load bearing.

Overkill for storage, but a very slick solution. Nicely done..

I would suggest a drop pin in the center of the support  through the plate. Murphy will find a dozen ways to dislodge it by accident.

Thanks. Ja, it's 2 times overkill at least but the material selection was dictated by what I had on hand rather than by what was good enough. I have other lighter gauge angle but noting that would give the depth of throat I wanted so this 25 plus year old stick that was left over from a carport built was it.

I'd assumed that a pin would be required but the fit is such that I'm doubting it will be. The plates have to be pulled directly backward by > 50mm against a bit of resistance so between their location, which is in a corner with a wall and cabinet on either side, and the angled slot I'm anticipating they wont need it. Will be simple enough to add if it turns out to be less than sufficiently positive.

[oafpatroll]

Been a bit busy so haven't had much workshop time available till today. Got the wall storage brackets finished up and the first one mounted to test. It's for the MEC 12G press and I ended up making it to fit that one specifically because the built in plate is both narrower and of a heavier (non-metric) gauge of plate. Decided it would be less bother making one special snowflake rather than trying to make all the the others accommodate. The other four are made to fit the standard 150 square x 5mm plate I planned to use on all of them originally. Ran out of beer in the workshop fridge so pulled the plug on mounting the other 4 which I will do tomorrow.

It works great. The plates are a close sliding fit in width and height to the slot and retention turned out to be more than positive enough to not need to angle the bracket upward or put a retention pin in it.







   

[oafpatroll]

Finished up this afternoon. Turned out well and I'm glad I put in the effort. Realised that I could have simplified the wall brackets even further by using 50mm flat bar in place of one of the angle sections as they definitely don't need four screws to secure them. Had some of that lying around but hadn't noticed it. These things would make decent floating staircase brackets for people a little thinner than me. Ran out of enthusiasm just before mounting everything so instead of painting I just wiped on linseed oil after heating the plates and brackets with a torch.

Thinking of opening a reloading press gallery.

[Rumple]

Looks good 👍