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 Ds J
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Any specific reason for your choice - are they that much better than other plugged monos, like Spartan Ultimate Hunter from Frontier? 


 
Posted : 17/07/2026 6:00 pm
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Posted by: @ds-j

@treeman 

Any specific reason for your choice - are they that much better than other plugged monos, like Spartan Ultimate Hunter from Frontier? 

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(1) Price
(2) Wanting lower velocity expansion

 


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Posted : 18/07/2026 6:18 pm
 Ds J
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From Dr Google: 

https://forum.accurateshooter.com/threads/low-velocity-expansion-bullets.4085193/

- Nosler Custom Comp

- Bullets for lower powdered calibres (30-30)


 
Posted : 19/07/2026 10:16 am
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 Ds J
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Posted by: @ds-j

From Dr Google: 

https://forum.accurateshooter.com/threads/low-velocity-expansion-bullets.4085193/

- Nosler Accubond Longrange

- Bullets for lower powdered calibres (30-30)

(Edit: correction)

 


 
Posted : 19/07/2026 10:29 am
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 223
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The Safari/Spoor bullets made by Rudi Fischer seem to be of solid copper base, bonded lead front construction, much like the Rhino.

Is Rhino bullets still in business?

Stewart bullets (Hansie Minnaar) and Claw are well known local conventional bonded options.


 
Posted : 22/07/2026 5:12 pm
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Posted by: @223

The Safari/Spoor bullets made by Rudi Fischer seem to be of solid copper base, bonded lead front construction, much like the Rhino.

Is Rhino bullets still in business?

Stewart bullets (Hansie Minnaar) and Claw are well known local conventional bonded options.

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Rhino - Claw seem to be gone.

 


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Therefore I am me.

 
Posted : 23/07/2026 8:52 am
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I eventually settled on the Spoor bullet, but found it way to "much" or over engineered for my first need - that being shots at 30-80 m rarely over a hundred meter. The Spoor is a Premium bullet and wasted when shooting 50 m shots at 2100 fps POI. 
I then went back to the Hornady Interlok soft point and played around with the velocity and POI. 

I think I got lucky, perhaps it works like this, dunno ?

I got the Spoor 140 gr bullet at max able to achieve load that was also quarter inch group and set rifle to1.8 inch high at 100 m. I then started fiddling with the Hornady 154 gr bullets speeds below 2300 fps. I noted that the group below 2455 fps stayed half inch and better as I reduced velocity, but more importantly ! The group kept moving left on the target - my ideal wanted velocity was a thumb suck "I like" 2200 fps.  Unbelievably, at exactly 2200 fps the Hornady was half inch right of the Spoor bullet at 100 m
 I now had two loads that shot as follows - one at 2677 fps 1.8 inch high dead centre and one at 2200 fps shooting flat dead on vertically but about 1.5 cm to right. Ie: still in the one inch black square at 100 m

So Cody in the intended use for one specific farm Cody can load the Hornady cartridges and carry loose Spoor loads for if a far shot presents itself - which has not happened at intended use farm over the last 12 - 15 animals. 
I then also have the Spoor loads useable and ready with no scope change for everyday hunting on any farm. 

Was worrying, because we were really battling on the close range farm with 40-60 m shot meat damage at 2600 -2700 fps.
So all this is tested on paper, will check it all on game this week end. 


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Posted : 18/08/2026 6:49 pm
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 Ds J
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Do you have a big, heavy calibre for these short ranges? Maybe something like a 444 or similar? Or even a shotgun with slugs? Or maybe even a hunting handgun? 


 
Posted : 18/08/2026 8:32 pm
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@ds-j Ya ! the 458-2"


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Posted : 20/08/2026 2:51 pm
 Ds J
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@treeman Would it work for those 20m - 80m shots? Why / why not? A friend of mine used a 444 Marlin for hs bushveld work and only complained when shots went over 120m. 

(I want to remember that we did speak about this previously?)


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Posted : 22/08/2026 8:22 pm
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