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I'm not understanding what the kerfuffle is all about.
One is not better than the other.
In both cases, any scope adjustment is going to require calculation.
I use a MOA scope, range in meters, and use meters in my ballistic calculator. I don't need to do math in my head, so the units of measure are just numbers to the calculator.
Ranging in yards and using a MOA reticle makes it easier to mentally quantify an offset, and the same for ranging in meters and using a MIL reticle. In cases where the target size is given in cm, but not the range, it makes the mental gymnastics less challenging when using a MIL reticle. Same for inch size targets and a MOA reticle.
Interestingly, scope bases are never classified in MILS of elevation, always in MOA.
Posted : 27/06/2026 7:23 am
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I do not know anyone that can look through a scope with a plex reticle and geustimate inches with any degree of accuracy so MOA and inches does not track.
With a graduated reticles you measure in angles, not distance. MOA and mills are just different angle measuring systems. Provided all use the same system and the turrets and reticle is the same system, there can be no confusion.
Secondly, using mills does make it easier to calculate ranges for known sizes, and sizes at known ranges, except nobody shooting does that.
Lastly, since I have started target shooting I have learnt to think in MOA for wind and range adjustments, so now I am too lazy and old to retrain my brain to instinctively think in mills.
Posted : 28/06/2026 8:03 am
So ! If I were to buy a scope tomorrow for long range hunting - mils or MOA
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Posted : 30/06/2026 2:50 pm
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@treeman That should not be the sole parameter for selecting a scope. There are other more important criteria to be met, which if satisfied, make the angular measurement incidental.
Weight of the scope, reticle type, objective diameter, tube diameter, glass quality, light transmission, illumination, built in range finder, capped, exposed or lockable turrets, warranty - these should take precedent over MIL or MOA.
Posted : 30/06/2026 11:20 pm
@treeman That should not be the sole parameter for selecting a scope. There are other more important criteria to be met, which if satisfied, make the angular measurement incidental.
Weight of the scope, reticle type, objective diameter, tube diameter, glass quality, light transmission, illumination, built in range finder, capped, exposed or lockable turrets, warranty - these should take precedent over MIL or MOA.
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Question was intended purely in regard to the MIL - MOA consideration.
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Posted : 01/07/2026 8:06 am
That all depends on what you feel confident with.
For instance, I have learnt MOA. I look at the wind and decide how much MOA the deflection the is. That is why I prefer a MOA scope.
Someone else normally shoot PRS and only think in tenths of a mill. That is why they feel comfortable with a mill scope.
Lastly you get people that just want an aim point. They use BDC reticles or just plain plex.
Not one is better than the other.
Posted : 01/07/2026 8:47 pm